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	<title>Comments on: Macs Have Emacs Key Bindings?</title>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
		<link>http://www.goingthewongway.com/2007/05/18/macs-have-emacs-key-bindings/#comment-437</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 00:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@william
You are very correct.  I noticed it earlier, too.  However I thought that perhaps it was just the particular comment that I was looking at.  Now I realize that it was a result of one of the plugins that I was using.  Basically the more-smilies plugin was somehow getting rid of the Carriage Returns that were saved in the database (I looked and saw them there).

&lt;a href="http://comox.textdrive.com/pipermail/wp-trac/2007-May/012089.html"&gt;Support Bug describing problem&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.goingthewongway.com/2007/05/16/chopped-returns-in-perl/"&gt;Carriage Returns and the like&lt;/a&gt;

I've disabled the plugin and line breaks are working as expected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@william<br />
You are very correct.  I noticed it earlier, too.  However I thought that perhaps it was just the particular comment that I was looking at.  Now I realize that it was a result of one of the plugins that I was using.  Basically the more-smilies plugin was somehow getting rid of the Carriage Returns that were saved in the database (I looked and saw them there).</p>
<p><a href="http://comox.textdrive.com/pipermail/wp-trac/2007-May/012089.html">Support Bug describing problem</a><br />
<a href="http://www.goingthewongway.com/2007/05/16/chopped-returns-in-perl/">Carriage Returns and the like</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve disabled the plugin and line breaks are working as expected.</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
		<link>http://www.goingthewongway.com/2007/05/18/macs-have-emacs-key-bindings/#comment-436</link>
		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 00:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also, is it just me, or are line breaks in commenting not handled automagically?

do i have to manually enter the html for line breaks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also, is it just me, or are line breaks in commenting not handled automagically?</p>
<p>do i have to manually enter the html for line breaks?</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
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		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 00:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@derek
yeah, i once popped off all the keys from my keyboard so that i could clean them.  i later read somewhere that i could've changed the keyboard layout to dvorak if i had so desired.  but then i realized that i didn't want to go through the trouble of re-learning how to type.  interesting idea, though.

@tiff
i think i agree with derek here.  it's "geek."  also, if you wanted to address derek directly, you could probably just use the term "haxorz."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@derek<br />
yeah, i once popped off all the keys from my keyboard so that i could clean them.  i later read somewhere that i could&#8217;ve changed the keyboard layout to dvorak if i had so desired.  but then i realized that i didn&#8217;t want to go through the trouble of re-learning how to type.  interesting idea, though.</p>
<p>@tiff<br />
i think i agree with derek here.  it&#8217;s &#8220;geek.&#8221;  also, if you wanted to address derek directly, you could probably just use the term &#8220;haxorz.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
		<link>http://www.goingthewongway.com/2007/05/18/macs-have-emacs-key-bindings/#comment-429</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 19:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@william&lt;br /&gt;
I'm glad that you like it.  If you think about it, it makes sense that you can make any key on your keyboard mean something else to your computer.  Just because there's a symbol or words pasted onto a key does not give a key its meaning.  :)
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@tiff&lt;br /&gt;
I would say that this conversation is more of the "geek" variety than the "nerd" variety.  Perhaps I should write about what I think the differences are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@william<br />
I&#8217;m glad that you like it.  If you think about it, it makes sense that you can make any key on your keyboard mean something else to your computer.  Just because there&#8217;s a symbol or words pasted onto a key does not give a key its meaning.  <img src='http://www.goingthewongway.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@tiff<br />
I would say that this conversation is more of the &#8220;geek&#8221; variety than the &#8220;nerd&#8221; variety.  Perhaps I should write about what I think the differences are.</p>
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		<title>By: tiff</title>
		<link>http://www.goingthewongway.com/2007/05/18/macs-have-emacs-key-bindings/#comment-427</link>
		<dc:creator>tiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 18:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, NERDS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, NERDS.</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
		<link>http://www.goingthewongway.com/2007/05/18/macs-have-emacs-key-bindings/#comment-414</link>
		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 07:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@derek
i did not know that about being able to map the caps lock key.  very very clever.

and i just started trying out the emacs key bindings, now that i'm on my mac at home.  my initial reaction was "ooooh!  magic!"  a few of these controls are actually pretty useful for my powerbook's keyboard.  it doesn't have set keys for end/beginning of lines, nor does it have the delete-forward key.  this could prove to be quite handy!  thanks, derek!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@derek<br />
i did not know that about being able to map the caps lock key.  very very clever.</p>
<p>and i just started trying out the emacs key bindings, now that i&#8217;m on my mac at home.  my initial reaction was &#8220;ooooh!  magic!&#8221;  a few of these controls are actually pretty useful for my powerbook&#8217;s keyboard.  it doesn&#8217;t have set keys for end/beginning of lines, nor does it have the delete-forward key.  this could prove to be quite handy!  thanks, derek!</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 23:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@william&lt;br /&gt;
You're right, the Command key is used for many of the key bindings that are done with the Control key in Windows.  I map all of the computers that I use to have the Caps Lock key set as another Control key (just like the old Sun keyboards) instead of stupid Caps Lock which I find no use for.  You're right that it is annoying to have to switch to using my thumb to do access the Command key though.  I don't think that's too ergonomic.  Try out these Emacs key bindings sometime and see how if they work for you and whether you like them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@william<br />
You&#8217;re right, the Command key is used for many of the key bindings that are done with the Control key in Windows.  I map all of the computers that I use to have the Caps Lock key set as another Control key (just like the old Sun keyboards) instead of stupid Caps Lock which I find no use for.  You&#8217;re right that it is annoying to have to switch to using my thumb to do access the Command key though.  I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s too ergonomic.  Try out these Emacs key bindings sometime and see how if they work for you and whether you like them.</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
		<link>http://www.goingthewongway.com/2007/05/18/macs-have-emacs-key-bindings/#comment-410</link>
		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 22:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, if you're using a mac, key bindings are usually done using the command key (a.k.a. the "four-leafed-squigley" key) rather than the ctrl key.  Switching between computers at work and home make me annoyingly aware of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, if you&#8217;re using a mac, key bindings are usually done using the command key (a.k.a. the &#8220;four-leafed-squigley&#8221; key) rather than the ctrl key.  Switching between computers at work and home make me annoyingly aware of this.</p>
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